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Kylo Ren ([personal profile] andrend) wrote in [community profile] sixthiterationlogs2017-02-01 11:26 pm

Let the blind lead the blind

WHO: Kylo Ren
WHERE: Just outside the Inn
WHEN: February 1st
OPEN TO: All; Threadjack style
WARNINGS: None other than that this is really long.
STATUS: Open


The fact that daily meals not only existed, but seemed to do so in spite of snow, earthquakes, and auroras in the sky, was one of a few consistently positive glimmers of hope for the village and its inhabitants. It also had the benefit of drawing a large number of those same inhabitants to one predictable location more often than not. For Ren, that was normally a reason to avoid the inn in the hours after dawn and before dusk. However, with his mind on the conversations he had had with Sansa and Veronica, and the missing beast presumably still roaming somewhere out in the canyon, Ren knew he couldn't keep approaching the problem the way he had been, previously.

Veronica's advice still lingered in his mind fresh enough after a month of thought to have him trying something new. He waited for a good number of people to enter the inn before doing so himself, and asked, with a softened tone and a calm voice, if people could spare a moment when they finished to have a discussion.

He had missed the most recent meeting, entrenched as he had been in his training. It had been another lost opportunity, and he wanted no more of those. This was as good of a chance as any, and he was taking action before action could be taken from him.

With his request submitted, he left the inn and borrowed a sturdy crate from outside one of the unused buildings. He took a seat on it, just outside the front of the inn, during the meal. Most people came and went through the doors, and it gave him a good position without worrying about the crowding of the growing village's size packed inside one space.

When enough people decided to come out and take part, he stood back up, his long hair loosely pulled back, and the scar the cut across his face and down his arm far more visible for it. He looked around at the faces gathered, some familiar, others new, and straightened his back, standing taller and more assured. He needed people to trust him, or at least trust that what he had to say might be important. But he could not be harsh, he could not demand. He had to coax reason out, and the only way to do so was to offer his ideas as ideas, and nothing more.

"A lot has happened in this canyon. Some of you have been here for far more of it than I have. There have been hazards, storms, unusual discoveries, and violent creatures. People come and go, almost always without the slightest inclination as to how or why. I myself have gone and returned, and I remember nothing of it." He paused there, one hand holding onto the metal staff he had been using so long now it had become an extension of him. He rested it on the ground like a cane now, using it to keep himself grounded.

"This canyon is unpredictable. The dangers and threats that may face us in the future can not be anticipated wholly, and there is no way of knowing who among us will still be around to see them. But one thing is clear. I do not believe our captors have ever intended anything positive of this place. They observe, and they prevent our escape. They take our strength, our possessions, our memories," He hesitates a moment, his grip tightening on the staff, his voice sharper for a moment before settling back to an even tone. "And they toy with us. We have no idea who they are, what their true intentions may be, or how they came to bring us here, only that for now we are trapped here, together."

He looks over the group that has gathered, a frown crossing his face, his brows furrowed a moment before smoothing over. He has to choose his words carefully, and for the sometimes reckless young man, it isn't easy not to dive straight in.

"I think it's time we discuss whether or not this place needs more than the loose assortment of tasks and common, repeated actions it has as it currently stands. I believe we need a leadership in place. A council. With how unpredictable this place has proven to be, no one person can or should be trusted with that task but more dangers will come, we will face more disasters, more attacks that we can not see coming. We can not assume that we will always have the luxury of waiting until after the fact to react."

He breathes, slow and deep, and tries to find the words again, searching for the right phrasing, the right voice.

"I think a council is something we should consider. A group of people to share the burden of making tough calls or assigning tasks when things go wrong, or when something needs to get done. It will not work, however, if disagreement runs rampant underneath it. That's why I came here. At the very least, it should be discussed. If the majority is against it, I will drop the matter, but if we do not at least have this conversation, I do not think this village will last many disasters before the fragile organization the structure of it is currently built on collapses and falls apart."

Having said his piece, Ren stepped aside, and offered the area he had been speaking from to anyone who might choose to use it.

[This is a meeting post open to threadjacking, interruptions, opinions, and the like. If your character has anything to say, let them do so. I'll drop a secondary comment below for Ren specifically, otherwise go wild and respond to anyone you like or start your own thing. It's intended to be an IC discoure over whether or not the village needs some form of leadership, but any actual organizing of a leadership is not intended or planned to be formed from this meeting.]
windchasing: (i'm not kidding i really hate your face)

[personal profile] windchasing 2017-02-05 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"The same way these things always are," comes a clipped grouse from the back of the crowd. "By those who have power, at the expense of those who don't."

Pietro may not have been here long, but he's seen enough governments supposedly established by the people, where the people doesn't include his. This doesn't strike him as much different.
lastofthekellys: (all girlishness gone)

[personal profile] lastofthekellys 2017-02-05 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"And here I was thinkin' we could be all radical and daring, and implement universal suffrage," Kate says, tartly. It's not that she would disagree with him - Pietro? - under other circumstances. She's a poor, Irish-Catholic girl with a convict parent, a girl who had an act of Parliament passed against her kith and kin and self and who had gone down on her knees in front of the governor to beg for mercy.

Certainly, even here, she has had the deeply instinctual twinge when she heard Miss Magnus's accent, and Miss Carter's.

And yet, she's been working hard to try and keep things here even. In check. Her campaigning against the first discovered weapons handed out had been more for the power that could stem from them than anything else.

"We don't have to ape after the injustices some of us are from."
windchasing: (ur regretting this conversation already)

[personal profile] windchasing 2017-02-06 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
"Do you honestly think no one will?" It isn't that he imagines her naive — while he isn't an expert on accents in English, he knows hers isn't the prim, precise rhythm he hears on the BBC, and in his short time in the village, he hasn't missed the amount of work she seems to do. It's only that her suggestion relies on having much more faith in people than he does.

"Even if we take for granted that an election would proceed unadulterated," And Pietro doesn't, having never witnessed such a thing in his life, "Democracy favors the majority. There may not be many people here, but there are more than enough to outnumber anyone whose needs don't align with the group's."

Not to name any names, but.

"Forgive me for my disinterest in being subject to such a council."

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-06 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Emma turned at the sound of the first question, moving towards the voice, who wasn't standing that far away from her. "That's one way to look at it," Emma mused. There were plenty of others too, but Emma didn't get into that just now.

"And not having some semblance of control over our lives is a better option?"
windchasing: (haet ur face)

[personal profile] windchasing 2017-02-07 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
"I already have as much control over my life as our captors allow, thank you," Pietro retorts, peevish.

"I don't see how handing what little decision-making power they've left us over to anyone else is supposed to improve matters."

He's done that before, and recently -- and while he isn't sure if he would again, if Magneto asked it of him, he certainly doesn't owe anyone else here his allegiance.

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-08 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Emma raised an eyebrow at him, crossing her arms lightly across her chest. She was used to people disagreeing with her, usually more vocally than this man, and with more magic, but that is neither here nor there.

"Not complete control, No one controls me, but there are so many people her now. How is trying to serve that many masters doing us any good either?" She asked, calmly.
chosenbytheocean: (Looking for Hope)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-02-09 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Moana was listening to the conversation over on the sidelines. She thought that the council was a good idea, have people who were good at all sorts of things work together to find ways to help the village. She didn't really consider this sort of thing a power play. It was about living and surviving.

She raised her hand looking between Pietro and Emma. "If you two are skeptical why not be part of the council? It should be people from all over, with all different experiences. I don't think they'll tell people what to do but focus on what we need to survive, like figuring out how much food we need to store or where to get seed. They won't have many more control over another person as people do now."

The council in Moana's village didn't declare laws or rules. The rules of the village have been in place for much longer than that, the council met to make sure that harvests were on schedule and different problems that people had so they could find solutions. "They'll just be there to help. We can't all do everything ourselves. People need each other."

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-11 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Emma happened to catch Moana out of the corner of her eye.... raising her hand no less. She couldn't help but smile at the girl just a little bit.

"You don't have to raise your hand, but it's kind of great that you did," She said. "I'm Emma and I wouldn't be opposed to it really, but I tend to fight for the little guy. I don't know how popular that would be?"
chosenbytheocean: (Standing to close)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-02-11 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Moana lowered her hand looking a little bit sheepish at Emma.

"Well I like it and who cares if no one else does. Everyone, even the little guy should get a voice." The phrasing sounded awkward when Moana said it, as if she wasn't used to the term. She really did think it was better if everyone got a voice and given how small the village was, she saw no reason why others couldn't get a say.

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-14 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Emma looked over at her, processing what she was saying. Emma was always the kind of person to consider everyone's opinions. It was more coming from Storybrooke, raised her frustration level, because everyone had an opinion, and they were usually at odds.

"I get where you're coming from, but what happens when someone gets pi....ticked off because they don't agree?
chosenbytheocean: (Umm...)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-02-14 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
"You compromise and talk." Moana didn't think it was all that complicated. Yes, people were stubborn but if you talked then things could be solved. Unless Emma thought that everyone would be stuck in the same opinion all the time.

That sounded awful.

"It's okay if people don't agree."

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-26 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
"You make it sound so simple," Emma stated with a smile. She knew better than to think it was going to be that simple, but then again what did she know? She was coming at things slightly jaded from life, so maybe it would work in this girl's case.

"I'm Emma"
chosenbytheocean: (I got this)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-02-27 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
"I think that's better than over complicating it." Moana didn't really know. "It'll eventually get complicated, it's probably best not to help it along." At least she thought so.

"I'm Moana." She smiled brightly at Emma.

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-02-28 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
"Hey, I'm all for not complicating things, but I think complicated should be my middle name," She said chuckling a bit. She is not even kidding here. Emma's life seems to draw life from complications.

She shudders to think about it.

"When did you get here?"
chosenbytheocean: (You're talking way to close to my face)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-03-01 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Moana fidgeted a bit, hitting her fist against her thigh as she moved. "Thirty or so days ago? I haven't been counting." That wasn't true but her count was on the floor upstairs.

She looked up at Emma curiously. "Have you been here long?"

She wondered why this meeting was happening now and not before. It felt like it was something important.

[personal profile] thesavior 2017-03-01 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
"You haven't?" Emma asked. "I thought everyone did, but that's just me. She wasn't going to mention that she could tell that Moana was lying. She figured that would scare the girl away and Emma didn't want to do that.

"About 8 months now.... God, it doesn't feel like it's been that long, but.... wow. Sorry. Where are you from?"
chosenbytheocean: (I'm listening and confused)

[personal profile] chosenbytheocean 2017-03-01 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Moana shook her head. "That's a long time. I'm from Motunui. It's a small island. You probably haven't heard of it." Because no one has heard of her small island.

Her head tilted to the side and she glanced around the area. "Why haven't you guys try to set up something in the last eight months? What changed now?" She didn't understand if something had happened to push people into acting.