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can_fight_ugly ([personal profile] can_fight_ugly) wrote in [community profile] sixthiterationlogs2018-11-30 12:54 pm

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WHO: (Who is making the post)
WHERE: Tony's Forge, later Eddie's house
WHEN: Afternoon to Evening
OPEN TO: Closed to Tony and eventually Eddie/Venom
WARNINGS: Venom, discussion of hosting a symbiote, drinking, questionable relationship dynamics


Anne had had some light thoughts about taking a walk about the Village and just letting all the news she's recently received settle in and order itself, but it turned out to be a fairly short walk as she found herself paused in front of the Forge.

She had planned on stopping by later, but apparently her feet decided later was now, and she realized there was no sense in putting it off. She wasn't likely to make any new revelations in the sticky, gooey circumstance she'd found herself in. She wandered about until she found Tony, then cleared her throat to announce her arrival.

"You owe me a drink. A strong one."
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (When you've been gone)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"Uh-" He looks up from where he's adding a few new lines to lists on the wall, the forge dark for the moment. "I can probably explain? Most likely. Depends on the context though I might want to go with no comment- in fact I think I will. No comment. I have none for you."

He barely has any commentary for himself, sketching out what looks to be a hand cranked vacuum chamber and a grinding, pulping tool meant for the extraction of resin. Look he's trying to get ahead of the curve on plastics. Maybe going ceramic will be the better option? He's not sure, he's working on it.
nonstopnarcissist: CW (my flesh and bone)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"...So you know." That helps a little. "We're working on keeping Venom fed. I'm trying to work on a reliable way to get chocolate but so far I've got fuck and all on that front so- brains. Which isn't terrible since most people don't want to eat them in the first place."

Saves them a little trouble.

He sets down his charcoal and turns to face her, dusting his hands on a rag. "So...how do you want to handle this? You don't need to be anymore involved than you want to be."
nonstopnarcissist: Avengers (Seriously who's this fucknut?)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Wouldn't that be more reason to limit your interactions with Venom directly? Indulging obsessive behaviour doesn't end well. I've been on both sides of that equation and- yeah. Not helpful in the long run." It enhances the fixation- which is potentially dangerous for Anne and Eddie both. Venom's stuck with Eddie. Fucking with the delicate balance they live in...

Not something he's equipped to handle.


But, well. She wants help, he can't not give it, so. He finishes dusting his hands off and pulls too small, sealed containers from the wall, mixing them in a hollow ceramic shell. Flint in steel in one pocket, compound in the shell in the other, and he's good to go. "Fire's a solid defense against it, right?"

Like discussing the weather. He's not expecting to NEED thermite but- he'd rather have it and not need it.
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Break a tall glass door)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"Well until I get a stereo system rigged? Fire will have to cut it. Do you know what frequency?" Because that would be the easier, less destructive option if they were anywhere else. As it is? This is the best he's got.

And the flamethrower he's not quite finished building.

Not that she needs to know that.

"Thermite. Burns hot, fast, and is a pretty effective way of handling most threats when you cant talk them down. I don't think I'll need it but-" He shrugs. "I'd rather have it and not need it. So...where are we meeting them?"
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Default)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"Bruce. I pointed Eddie at Dr. Banner when he first came to me with the Venom issue. If anyone in the village can understand, even a little? It'd be Bruce." Or look at a cure or- something to help them live and live safely.

"Trying to get them a support network is difficult with, well. Mass hysteria and panic being a risk."
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Try to feel myself)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-11-30 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"I haven't told anyone." He hadn't even told Anne which, well. Led to this mess. "I think Venom spoke to Liv about the brain thing. So. It's a pretty small group."

Tony shrugs on his coat and waves for Anne to follow him outside. "We'll talk them down. Knowing they've got someone in their corner? Helps."
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Uh huh. Uh huh. Sure.)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-01 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
"She's a surgeon. Saved my life when I first got here. Bucky Barnes' main squeeze- and has a stupid amount in common with me, she's good people. Works hard, wants to keep everyone safe from the environment, and from herself if it comes down to it." Which- is a sign of character if nothing else.

"She's been here awhile, works to keep everyone healthy, the hospital topped up with everything we can manage to make life safer, easier, for everyone in the village. She's willing to help Eddie and Venom so- that's a good sign."
nonstopnarcissist: CW (And you said I can’t escape myself)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-01 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
"They're great to have in your corner. Very take charge, understanding mentality." A beat. "Unless they're magic. Then they're assholes."

He's not going to elaborate at all. Sorry Anne.

"Sounds like he's been good for you. Dan. Able to keep up?"
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Now I'm falling down)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-02 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
"That, that right there? That's a keeper. You want someone that can handle weird shit with a level head and a hand up for the guy in need." It's what drew him to Pepper. And her ability to reign him in when his wheels start spinning so fast the gears tear each other up. It's a problem, thinking himself into a mania or an episode.

Hasn't happened here just yet but- one day.

If anything he's overdue.

Shit to worry about later, Eddie? Now. Or. Venom. "So how's it work, exactly? Eddie passes out, Venom comes around when, what? Whenever? Because it tried while I was talking to him but couldn't. I could see it moving around under his skin but- Venom couldn't manage."
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Say again?)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-02 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
"...a dog. That thing's been in a dog." Okay that? That's weird. This is already weird but that is extra weird.

And, hell, that doesn't sound surprising. "...He wanted a way to lock himself inside his house. To keep everyone else safe from him and Venom. That's why he first contacted me."
imareporter: (fangs)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-02 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Venom is focused on...trying to clean. It's frustrating because that's Eddie's jump. Cleaning is Edward Brock's job, he's the human, but he's also asleep, safe and protected. That was the purpose of why it wanted Anne over here. Eddie wasn't Anne. Anne was strong and brave and Eddie buried deep beneath his sarcastic exterior was a man who needed affection. Who needed love.

Anne could give that to him. Should give that to him but she was not. Eddie had explanations - I fucked up, I put myself above her, I'm not honestly her type, it would have never worked, better we did this now before we had kids but none of these things made sense. He thought about her.

As requested he'd turned eddie's thoughts away to other people, to 7 (who Venom appreciated), to the other women of the village, to the men of the village. Every time he thought about erasing Anne completely however Venom had halted it's thoughts.

Eddie didn't know what was good for him. He had to be taught, shaped, molded and that was the right way to do things...wasn't it?

Except coming here, Venom had been thrown off. Eddie's coping mechanisms had been thrown off. It couldn't just be the two of them.

All the more reason to sit down with Anne and hash out some ground rules. With whoever she brought. Eddie was his responsibility and he would take care of him.

When the knock on the door hit Venom the creature turned and sniffed. Then, in four strides, it moved to the door, opened it, and pointed one claw in Anne's face.

I take very GOOD care of Eddie. He is my host. He just needs to be taught and protected and made to feel secure and having to do that within the rules that you have all established is HARD.

They're not on Eddie's territory anymore. They're on his. Blinking, the creature turns it's great white eyes to Stark.

Stark. Now we meet face to face. We are Venom.
nonstopnarcissist: IM2 (Who can you trust?)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-02 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Tony Stark has, through the past decade, seen a lot of shit. He's survived a LOT of bullshit. Nine times out of ten the bullshit trying to kill him is big and bulky (Obie, Vanko, Killian, Thanos) or a little surreal and insane (The Chitauri, A whole moon, Thanos). He's met aliens. He's met Wizards. His best friend is a Hulk, he spends time with Alec quite often, and he fucks Iron Bull semi-regularly.

Big and bulky isn't terrifying.

Crazy deep voices? Aren't terrifying.

Blank sightless eyes, a gaping maw (no lips, no gums, just TEETH and a tongue?) that he can't quite track?

Skyping with Satan might be right.

That same lizard brain fear that took him by the spine and froze him up the first time he saw Hulk out of the armor, that held him still when Sam let her inner Vamp out? Makes a tiny, internal shriek.

The rest of him is motivated by too much spite to let Liv say she was RIGHT and Venom is terrifying and- no. Nope. Not having that now, is he? He's Tony Motherfucking Stark, he faced a maniac on a dead planet and got a moon thrown at him. He's made a mad god bleed.

He is not afraid of Venom. "You-"

He points. It's rude. He has no fucks to give. "Are far too sappy to have that many teeth. Does codependence come with the package, or is that just because Eddie's human and in desperate need of someone to take care of him?"
imareporter: (the life foundation)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-02 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Venom has to digest what Stark says - Does co-dependence come with the package or is it because Eddie is human and needs someone to take care of him? Then what Anne says I'm not going to let you live in a dump and it's...

Venom has no concept of friends helping other people. There is Eddie, Eddie is a friend, but that is one person and Eddie sucks at it sometimes. Sometimes he is good when he knows what's going on but here...

These two people coming in remind him of parents.

That is wrong. They are not related and this is not his sire, the being who spawned from him, but this...the two of them asking questions and demanding changes in behavior. It is like on TV.

It is not like Eddie's childhood which is good.

If it were then Anne would be dead and Tony Stark would be an emotionally abusive monster, drunk on loss and trauma and thinking only of himself.

Venom's eyes narrow at Anne before it steps aside. She'll note the place is a little more cleaned up, but there are still claw marks. Still scars across the surfaces.

We are cleaning like Eddie does. Venom rolled it's eyes So much could be solved if you all lived in hives where you all simply shared consciousness. This...identity is hard too. And it is not co-dependent.

Venom pauses, staring at Tony, We think. The creature with the teeth looks uncertain, Is that like addiction? We are not addicts. We are Venom. We can't help but think of food and survival it is all we knew before earth. Earth is hard.

Too damn hard.

But. Venom gestures to a couch turned right side up, Sit.

He points, ...Please. This is our home what happens now? We only wanted to yell at Anne because we take good care of Eddie. He needs to be taken care of. We can do that without needing...

Venom's eyes narrow at her, Boundaries.
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (I was lost)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-02 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
"My takeaway here is you need scratch resistant material that's durable enough to handle both of you so this doesn't happen." Tony's- not going for the sofa, despite the invitation. He's comparing the claw marks and gouges in the wood and furniture with a remodel in mind- though a few of them have him squinting.

Engineer brain has sufficiently taken over, otherwise he never would've done what, well. Happens next.

Without a thought to big teeth or how fucking foreign Venom is- Tony strides right up into his space like he has a right to be there (he does, as far as he's concerned) and gently takes hold of Venom's wrist to turn his hand around, poking at it's palm and the tips of his claws, testing for sharpness.

Force, obviously is a factor but knowing what needs training (how to hold shit gently) and what he needs to develop on the side (resin coating, lacquer, treated wood) is kind of important.

Suffice to say- he's not the best teacher when it comes to boundaries. "So far you're doing alright, but not making a mess in the first place tends to help with the whole cleaning thing. Codependency is a little like- well. It's a bit literal here, neither of you can live without the other but I mean. Emotionally. In the feels."

Which makes so much sense.

"First thing- no yelling at Anne. Eddie? Tries. But he's not the most together guy, that was true before you met him. Anne? Anne has her shit together. She knows how to handle...pretty much everything that comes to mind as relevant and has prior experience in the care and feeding of one Eddie Brock. Boundaries are important because- remember those three C's I told you about? Come on, Oozer, tell me if you remember." Now, of course, he looks up at Venom and uh- the teeth? Much bigger when you're this close.
imareporter: (motorcycle)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-02 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
It takes everything to not grab Stark and shove him through the wall except that he couldn't do it with enough force. This place has sapped his strength and truthfully...Truthfully Venom is too surprised by someone touching it. Actually touching it. The thing is soft and warm and moving, constantly moving, but it's claws are wicked sharp.

...Consent.

It bares it's teeth and remains still, looking like a very confused dog.

C's. That's the only one I remember. The creature snorts through a non-existent nose, And don't call people a pussy. Someone else told me that too.

Venom stared at it's hand, ...I can't take it off if you want to look at it. It is Eddie's hand. See?

And the black ooze parts to reveal a very human palm before closing quickly.

We can't pull him out until the sun comes up and he is asleep. venom glares at Anne again, asleep and safe. Asleep and protected. Nothing can hurt us except for fire and you wouldn't do that to us.
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Default)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-02 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
"Communication, Compromise, and Consent. You remembered the most important thing. And the- yeah. I don't know where you picked that up, it doesn't seem like the kind of thing Eddie would say. He is, what an old friend of mine would say, a good bean." Or as the internet would call: A cinnamon roll.

Which.

He's never understood entirely but language is fluid and slang is ever evolving, he can kind of keep up. Enough to not sound like an idiot.

Most of the time.

It's- strange, the twist and flex and pulse of Venom around Eddie- and it is around him, wrapped up like a cushion. Not like Hulk that is Bruce, but- something in Eddie until it isn't. But being out all night means he'd need more of that chemical to maintain a healthy condition.

Easier to think about that than the fact he's standing up and holding Venom's hand. "Well you've figured out part one of keeping him safe, so that's fantastic. Part two is...keeping both of you safe from the court of public opinion. Anne and I- for our own reasons, aren't knee jerk 'kill it with fire' types when it comes to weird shit. We have no guarantee that the rest of the village feels the same way." He pats Venom's hand and steps back, striding over to the sofa to sit. Like a civilized person.

"My vote is we do a reveal like Liv did earlier tonight- but that's just me. Letting people know could go well. Hiding it isn't impossible, but you're not exactly stealthy. Someone I know saw you fall out of a tree, thought you were one of the Wendigo from up in the mountains."
imareporter: (get out of my head)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-07 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
You must swear to me that Eddie will not be mentioned.

Venom's arms cross over his massive chest before nodding to her. Or perhaps...He will want to be?...I...I will tell him of this meeting Stark.

Stark is a warrior. When Venom looks to Anne he looks grim.

It's my fault he has been behaving the way he has. I...I am used to more autonomy then I have here. We are truly We. This is what I want. We must be Venom. It will save the both of us. We will be strong. We could protect the village. He must fully accept our bond.

Looking between Stark and Anne Venom looks down. He needs to be balanced. He's not balanced. I don't know how to help him. Stark said to make him not think of you but there is only so much that I can...re-direct.

He can't frown with so many teeth, ...I suppose we must talk.
nonstopnarcissist: CW (I clutched the branch)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-07 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's something you'll have to talk about. Together. It's not a decision to be made lightly and it might take a few days for you to both make up your minds. Definitely let him sleep on it after you've talked it out."

A beat and, wait, what? "Eat me? Why would he- oh. Right. Brains."

And he would have some of the tastiest in the village. "Sorry they're kind of meant for someone else if I kick the bucket while I"m here. Liv has dibs."

Later he'll feel weird about being so cavalier re the brain eating thing but- show no fear, don't give an inch, don't let them see you bleed. Starks are made of Iron, etc, etc. He can hold to that lesson pretty well. "Yeah that- uh. Gently redirect so neither of you become fixated. Obsessive behaviour isn't healthy in humans or- anyone, really? I think there's a larger thing going on here on a personal level- I'm just moral support."

And a thermite grenade if shit gets ugly but- he's pretty sure it won't be a thing. "Chat away."
imareporter: (oh fuck)

TW: suicidal ideation.

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-08 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Venom's a lot of things but he's not stupid and as much as he knows very little about earth, there are some things that he's very sure about and that's that Eddie has no fucking idea how to talk to women.

It would be a lot simpler if you could just mate and be done with it. He's grateful that his species has moved beyond the concept of mating, of relationships. Spawning is just simple. Simple and uncomplicated...

Venom pulls it's hands out from around itself. What was I doing? Protecting one's torso area is a human emotion.

It is not entirely eddie. He has tried. Being here is hard. on him. He looks down before looking back to Anne, then to Stark ...This place is similar to planets I've been on. We must...work together.

His brow furrows, I will promise you this. He will not revisit these memories and neither will I. We will give you our answer about sharing our presence with the community Stark.

Venom thuds, pacing in a circle. It's a move Anne might recognize since it's something Eddie would do, Whatever measures you wish to take regarding us we will accept. He will behave. You have our word.

There's a lot that venom wants to say. You can't fathom the depth of sorrow he feels about his actions. Or the memory he did not realize was significant. Eddie on the bridge thinking about what would happen if he fell into the water below.

He keeps silent. This is not appropriate. Now that he has more control he must reign in his host. There is far too much bleed between them.

...Anne. If this issue causes you pain we suggest you leave. We were taking good care of him-just not the care he apparently needs. Does Venom sound a little put out? Never. Perish the thought. Stark. We have one final question for you. If you would...indulge us.

nonstopnarcissist: CW (an empty street)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-08 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
This is- a lot that doesn't have much to do with him. AT the end of the day he's here for Anne- and here for Eddie on his unconscious behalf. Though Venom is also here for eddy but-

He's here for everyone that isn't him, basically. He doesn't have a horse in this race aside from how the village will react to venom and how that might make trouble as everyone moves forward. For the moment? He keeps quiet. Sits back against the sofa and lets Anne and Venom hash it out- observing. Anne he'd learned to read a little but Venom? Is a whole new kettle of fish. The human gestures- those must be Eddie. Whatever he is, he doesn't need to pace. Doesn't need to hold himself.

The bleed is fascinating. What it must mean for their mental state if there's this much crossover is-

Oh wait, his turn, apparently.

"Sure, big guy. What's on your mind?"
imareporter: (oh fuck)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-08 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
...We require work to do. In the Evening.

Venom's tone is blunt, We must take time to hunt but if you can think of something we can do to help you or the...group we will do it.

Venom growls, This is not the Klyntar way. We hunt. We conquer. We devour. We know nothing else. And it is NOT addiction. Venom points, It is our nature. Despite this, we are warriors and there are no battles to fight. Yet.

Venom crouches, We must keep Eddie busy until we can figure out how to make him happy. To help him to be happy here despite the circumstances. So. We need work.
nonstopnarcissist: AOU (Now I'm falling down)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-08 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
"Then I've got a project for you. Several, even. Your claws any good for digging? We've got fields that will need clearing down south for farming and any ore you can dig up from the mountains for me to smelt in the forge will help everyone. Keeping cave wolves from climbing into the village will help. Stripping down the old buildings in the abandoned village for parts to use when we set up base down south, scouting the area for hostile native animals, that kind of thing. Should lean pretty well into your skillset." He hadn't exactly been chewing on how to make Venom useful but-

He totally had.

Something this big, this strong? Excellent for the aforementioned tasks. "Also- how's your memory? Just yours. You and Eddie do this sharing thing and that's well and good but how is your memory? We're setting up kind of a watch but there's a limit to how far out everyone can see and we're decades away from any kind of night vision equipment. Someone big that can handle if they run into anything doing a wider circuit around the village to deter anything toothy that might want to climb in and eat someone? Productive. For Daytime Eddie kind of work...I don't know his skills."
imareporter: (let's get vigilante)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-08 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Do not concern yourself with Eddie. Venom shakes it's head, He is overwhelmed. He and I must...speak. We must be bonded more. I know him, I know everything about him and Anne, he does not know me. It frightens him. The darkness in his mind is vast...In all the minds I've been in.

Venom looks at Tony then and he looks alien, wholly and utterly alien.

Such… great… horror. A terrible abundance of sorrow. What monstrous gods would create a race with so much buried greatness – yet curse them with souls born wounded?

and it's gone. Venom shakes it off, He must trust me. I will tell him to seek you out if you have work for him.

He straightens, I must hunt now. I will walk you to the door
nonstopnarcissist: CW (arising steep)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-08 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
"We are mother nature's special fucked up snowflakes." And they either roll with it or learn to adapt or slowly drown themselves in fear or anxiety or depression. It's rough. He's always known it to be rough but- he never thought it'd be such a unique thing in the cosmos. Though, to be fair, whatever Venom is? Seems it's own kind of fucked up.

Tony levers himself to his feet, offering Venom his hand. "Take care of him."
imareporter: (get out of my head)

[personal profile] imareporter 2018-12-08 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
You are not made out of ice. You are water. Largely water. But you are not made out of ice.

You know. In case you forgot.

We shall. And we shall think on your proposal and bring it to him
nonstopnarcissist: CW (And you said I can’t escape myself)

[personal profile] nonstopnarcissist 2018-12-08 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
"...that is oddly deep for being entirely literal." Right. Double pat to Venom's arm as he makes his way to the door. Good talk. A plus, go team, no one ended up dead. "That's all you really need to do."