He nods at that. "It's definitely changed. It was Navy before, and now it's yellow. Which is mine, obviously. He's talkative," he says, sounding so confused by it. "I mean, I don't know if you've met Cougar, but I've heard him speak more in the least day than I have in the entire time I'm known him."

Another pause and then adding. "And that is not my typical exaggeration."