"A legend," Karen echoes, her brow creasing although she can't help smiling, too, if only at Kamala's enthusiasm. "I guess I'll believe you when you say it was all good."

No, she knows that much; Frank wouldn't talk shit about her to someone else, his sense of honor would never allow for that. That he talks about her at all is a little surprising, though.

"I'm glad we're finally meeting, too."